Well Verizon FiOS Internet became available in my town in New Jersey and I had it installed last week. I ordered the 15MB/2MB (15MB downstream, 2MB upstream) package in our home. Since the Internet is probably more important to us than TV, air, and maybe even food sometimes this was a big decision. Well not that big really, since our cable modem service provided by Cablevision’s Optimum Online has not exactly been great. No matter what the cable company claims about speed our experience was never all that good. More about this later as I will compare Cablevision’s Optimum Online and Verizon FiOS Internet.
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I ordered Verizon FiOS online on Monday January 23, and the install was done on Thursday January 26. The install started at 9:15 AM and was complete by 12:45 PM. This was fast by FiOS install times as all the copper cables are removed from your house and replaced by fiber-to-the premises (FTTP). The small box or “NID” (Network Interface Device) is replaced with a larger “ONT” (Optical Network Terminal). This box is powered, not by the telco backup generators like on your copper service, but by your house power. So a small power supply and a battery backup is installed inside the house. The battery backup is in case of a power failure, allowing continued telephone service providing you have a telephone connected that does not require power. I keep one older plain telephone attached inside my house just in case.
The ONT (Optical Network Terminal) installed on the side of your house connects to the fiber back to the CO (telco’s central office). It has connections for up to 4 POTS (plain old telephone service, using cat 3) lines, and Ethernet (cat 5) connection for very high speed Internet, and a RF connector (RG6) for TV (not available in my area yet). In many cases the existing cabling inside your house can be used, but Verizon technicians will route new cabling if it is needed. Unlike DSL, this is a “high-touch” installation with Verizon technician’s there from beginning to end making sure your phones and Internet service works before they leave. In my case the installation was smooth and “flawless” and the technician was knowledgeable and pleasant. Not even my house full of many Macs, several Windows PCs, two VoIP Linksys PAP2-NA boxes, Tandberg T150 H.323 codec, Polycom H.323 codec, wireless network, 5 Airport Express units, a Giga-Bit Linksys 8-port switch, and two Elgato EyeHome boxes did not intimidate him. Our house is pretty well wired!

The Verizon FiOS Internet service is available in three speeds right now, 5MB/2MB. 15MB/2MB, and 30MB/5MB. These packages offer a dynamic IP address, email accounts, 24/7 live technical support, choice of online services; Verizon Yahoo! or MSN® Premium (these are not compatible for Macs), and a D-Link Wireless router included for new FiOS installations. I picked the 15MB/2MB package due to pricing, which was exactly the same price we were paying Cablevision for the cable modem. Verizon offers a small business package with static IP addresses, but the price is a bit prohibitive for us.

The included D-Link router is a DI-624 and is pretty decent router. I have decided to use it, even though I have a Linksys wireless router and a Apple Airport Extreme. No problems using the D-Link included router.

Verizon uses Dynamic PPPoE (Point to Point Protocol over Ethernet) running on the D-Link router. This is a lot like DSL (it also uses PPPoE). The D-Link router is running DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) for the LAN (local area network, inside the house), therefore all you need to do is connect your computer, make sure it is set for DHCP, and the computer will be given an IP address from the router and you will be connected. Many computers come defaulted to DHCP, so in many cases there are no configuration needed on the computers.
Verizon FiOS is Mac compatible, all you need to do is connect your Mac to the router via Ethernet or wireless after the Verizon technician activates your account and sets up your router. The activation process must be done on a Windows machine, but the Verizon technicians carry their own Windows laptops and can do the activation on their own laptop if no Windows machine is at your home. All you need to do is make sure your Mac is setup up for DHCP. This is found in System Preferences -> Network -> TCP/IP for Ethernet or Airport. It is that easy, really. No restart required. No software to load.
System Preferences -> Network Settings -> TCP/IP -> DHCP
Use Spotlight if you can not remember where DHCP is located. Just go to Apple menu -> System Preferences and start typing DHCP.

Unfortunately, some of the Verizon technicians do not realize how easy this is and are taken back by a Mac. As I have always said “it is very easy to use a Mac, but sometimes tough to be a Mac user!” I received a call from a Mac user the other day during her Verizon FiOS install. The Verizon technicians were confused with her Mac and could not get it connected. Apparently, they were trying to run PPPoE on the Mac, while connecting it to the D-Link router running… PPPoE! Confused, I would say. My first question would be “would you be running PPPoE on a Windows PC when connecting it to the same router?” Of course not. You would be setup for DHCP on a Windows PC, so what is the difference? None! Amazing sometimes what some people do to Macs and claim incompatibility. Sounds like more of a networking problem, not a Mac problem. Anyway, it is working fine for her now. As the Macintosh market-share grows, as I am sure it will, this will be less of a problem.
What makes the Mac compatibility issue with Verizon FiOS a bit murky, is the software Verizon wants to install on the customer’s computer. The software includes MSN which is not compatible with Macintosh OS X. MSN is the Microsoft Network is it not? Although MSN IM is Macintosh compatible, the full software is not. This may be a plus, in my opinion, as the software that Verizon FiOS wants to install is mostly marketing. It installs itself all over the Windows machine and adds Verizon logo, MSN software, changes IE settings, adds toolbars, etc. All you need to do is bookmark the Verizon Central page with your browser and lo-gin with the user-name and password Verizon gives you. Safari works fine. I would suggest experienced Windows users may not want to install this either.

There have been some stories I have read about Macs running slower on Verizon FiOS. I have tested Macs on FiOS at a colleagues house last year and did not see any difference in speed tests with Windows PCs on his network. In some Verizon FiOS installations, people have reported, a high latency on the Internet connection prompting Apple to offer Broadband Tuner back in November 2005. The Broadband Tuner allows you to take full advantage of very high speed FiOS based Internet connections that have a high latency. Basically the Apple Broadband Tuner is a “packetshaper” that fine tunes OS X’s Ethernet packets to a high latency connection. See my December 2005 post Apple Releases Broadband Tuner for FiOS Users. The latency on my FiOS connection is less than my cable modem from Cablevision! I have seen no difference in speeds between my Windows PCs and my Macs.
The Verizon FiOS upload speed has already made a big impression on my co-workers. Since I work with technology and video conferencing, tele-commuting is not new to me. I use video conferencing, web conferencing, and VoIP regularly at home. I work on some projects with developers in California, Seattle, Sweden, and Denmark and time zones are in full play. The day that Verizon FiOS was installed, I worked from home. I joined two conferences with my Tandberg codec via the cable modem in the AM while the Verizon technician was busy working outside on the FiOS install. My co-workers have seen my video many times from my home and the conferences went fine. But in the afternoon I joined another important multi-point conference with by Tandberg, but this time over Verizon FiOS. My co-workers gasped when the saw the quality of my video this time. With Verizon FiOS much faster upload speeds, my video quality was said to be three times better! They new immediately I was not on the Optimum Online cable modem anymore.
Ok, now on to the “ping tests”, “speed tests”, comparisons, between my new Verizon FiOS connection and my Cablevision provided cable modem. I have yet to cancel the cable modem as I wanted some time to run some tests and really compare speeds. First of all the price for both services is $44.95 per month. So there was no change in our household budget.
Ping Test
First “ping” tests for latency, a common complaint about Verizon FiOS. Simple to test on Mac OS X by simply opening Terminal (found in Applications -> Utilities), and entering ping a.root-servers.net at the Terminal prompt. Control + Z will stop ping test. Basically lower numbers are better.
Ping test from a Mac OS 10.4 computer – Cablevision cable modem service (approx. 21.6 – 24.9 ms)

Ping test from a Mac OS 10.4 computer – Verizon FiOS Internet service (approx. 11.8 – 16.4)

Seems my installation at least shows better “ping” test numbers on Verizon FiOS as opposed to my Cablevision cable modem. This test was done using a stock iMac G5 2.1GHz with 1.5GB RAM and the Apple Broadband Tuner was NOT installed.
If the “ping” test shows high latency (higher than 80ms) and you are using Mac OS X, I suggest you try Apple’s Broadband Tuner.
Ping test from a Windows XP computer – Cablevision cable modem service (approx. 22 – 72 ms)

Ping test from a Windows XP computer – Verizon FiOS Internet service (approx. 12 – 13 ms)

Same result as OS X, as expected, latency from Cablevision’s cable modem is higher than Verizon FiOS at my house. I ran these test many times at different times of day over a week and they always came out in this range with Verizon FiOS always having less latency.
Speed Tests
Speed tests were done using Speakeasy’s Speed Test using Mac OS 10.4.4 (Safari and Firefox) and Windows XP Internet Explorer and Firefox). I used these different browsers for speed tests because I have seen some speed tests available around the Internet that are Java-based and show different speeds with different browsers. I saw no significant differences between speeds reported using Speakeasy’s speed test among browsers, But I have included the test results by browser anyway. Firefox being the common browser between Mac OS X and Windows XP, I felt it would be a good idea to include test from multiple browsers.
Times, Platforms, Browsers, and Server Locations Speed Tests
These tests below were performed between 5:55 PM EST and 6:20 PM EST on a Monday evening from the east coast. Basically, this is prime Internet use time when all my neighbors are probably online “sharing” our common cable modem pipe. I provide a chart below of tests I did at different times of the day.
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Windows XP – Internet Explorer
Internet Explorer – Cable Modem

Internet Explorer – FiOS

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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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3152 / 901 | 4884 / 1748 |
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San Francisco, CA
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3085 / 905 | 5833 / 1752 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3107 / 906 | 5979 / 1746 |
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Dallas, TX
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3470 / 905 | 9813 / 1759 |
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Chicago, IL
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3473 / 906 | 14422 / 1781 |
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Atlanta, GA
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3403 / 908 | 14255 / 1777 |
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New York City
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3424 / 910 | 14544 / 1781 |
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Washington, DC
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3328 / 908 | 14655 / 1777 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Windows XP – Firefox
Firefox – Cable Modem

Firefox – FiOS

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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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|
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Seattle, WA
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2951 / 553 | 4847 / 1747 |
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San Francisco, CA
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2899 / 503 | 5821 / 1745 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3179 / 563 | 5952 / 1755 |
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Dallas, TX
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3358 / 680 | 9848 / 1757 |
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Chicago, IL
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3373 / 868 | 14330 / 1775 |
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Atlanta, GA
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3421 / 851 | 14462 / 1773 |
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New York City
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3112 / 902 | 14529 / 1780 |
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Washington, DC
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3413 / 917 | 14470 / 1774 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Mac OS X – Safari
Safari Browser – Cable Modem

Safari Browser – FiOS

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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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|
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Seattle, WA
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3059 / 739 | 4834 / 1593 |
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San Francisco, CA
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3267 / 710 | 5661 / 1726 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3402 / 881 | 5764 / 1723 |
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Dallas, TX
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3439 / 743 | 9541 / 1678 |
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Chicago, IL
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3580 / 759 | 14536 / 1741 |
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Atlanta, GA
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3560 / 746 | 14336 / 1701 |
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New York City
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3392 / 892 | 14237 / 1757 |
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Washington, DC
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3244 / 706 | 14638 / 1745 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Mac OS X – Firefox
Firefox Browser – Cable Modem

Firefox Browser – FiOS

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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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2325 / 885 | 4803 / 1199 |
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San Francisco, CA
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3017 / 887 | 5746 / 1609 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3531 / 888 | 5790 / 1609 |
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Dallas, TX
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2822 / 894 | 9706 / 1685 |
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Chicago, IL
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3163 / 877 | 14688 / 1755 |
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Atlanta, GA
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3517 / 848 | 12731 / 1715 |
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New York City
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3502 / 905 | 14743 / 1752 |
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Washington, DC
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3345 / 898 | 14638 / 1745 |
Time of tests between 9:15 PM EST and 9:55 PM EST – Monday Evening
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Windows XP – Internet Explorer
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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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3411 / 904 | 4885 / 1750 |
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San Francisco, CA
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3434 / 908 | 5784 / 1757 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3442 / 909 | 5974 / 1754 |
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Dallas, TX
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3440 / 909 | 9691 / 1755 |
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Chicago, IL
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3451 / 912 | 14414 / 1773 |
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Atlanta, GA
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3399 / 913 | 13366 / 1777 |
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New York City
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3541 / 914 | 14623 / 1784 |
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Washington, DC
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3449 / 913 | 14662 / 1783 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Windows XP – Firefox
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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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3384 / 558 | 4858 / 1748 |
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San Francisco, CA
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3316 / 519 | 5799 / 1747 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3304 / 565 | 5949 / 1743 |
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Dallas, TX
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3468 / 690 | 9860 / 1762 |
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Chicago, IL
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3467 / 829 | 14334 / 1779 |
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Atlanta, GA
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3479 / 849 | 14394 / 1766 |
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New York City
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3517 / 924 | 14501 / 1770 |
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Washington, DC
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3430 / 918 | 14517 / 1768 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Mac OS X – Safari
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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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3150 / 888 | 4810 / 1595 |
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San Francisco, CA
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3441 / 884 | 5724 / 1715 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3296 / 880 | 5892 / 1722 |
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Dallas, TX
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3344 / 894 | 9552 / 1680 |
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Chicago, IL
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3358 / 894 | 14558 / 1730 |
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Atlanta, GA
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3285 / 899 | 14536 / 1693 |
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New York City
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3378 / 749 | 14648 / 1735 |
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Washington, DC
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3469 / 748 | 14581 / 1725 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Mac OS X – Firefox
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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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|
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Seattle, WA
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3286 / 891 | 4820 / 1571 |
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San Francisco, CA
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3412 / 891 | 5721 / 1594 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3268 / 865 | 5850 / 1607 |
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Dallas, TX
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3296 / 897 | 9846 / 1659 |
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Chicago, IL
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3256 / 895 | 14665 / 1758 |
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Atlanta, GA
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3519 / 899 | 14748 / 1758 |
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New York City
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3587 / 902 | 14328 / 1759 |
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Washington, DC
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3604 / 907 | 14484 / 1751 |
Time of these tests between 6:55 AM EST and 7:35 AM EST – Thursday Morning
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Windows XP – Internet Explorer
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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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3875 / 910 | 4898 / 1752 |
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San Francisco, CA
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4398 / 908 | 5210 / 1014 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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4648 / 912 | 5914 / 1753 |
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Dallas, TX
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4548 / 915 | 9816 / 1766 |
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Chicago, IL
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5486 / 914 | 14370 / 1774 |
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Atlanta, GA
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4772 / 913 | 14268 / 1777 |
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New York City
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5293 / 915 | 14661 / 1782 |
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Washington, DC
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5113 / 914 | 14610 / 1779 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Windows XP – Firefox
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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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4483 / 601 | 4856 / 1745 |
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San Francisco, CA
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4114 / 568 | 5828 / 1755 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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3765 / 554 | 5895 / 1749 |
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Dallas, TX
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4012 / 746 | 9884 / 1771 |
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Chicago, IL
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4668 / 919 | 14426 / 1763 |
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Atlanta, GA
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4339 / 921 | 14386 / 1775 |
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New York City
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5270 / 925 | 14434 / 1784 |
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Washington, DC
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4946 / 925 | 14427 / 1775 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Mac OS X – Safari
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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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4589 / 884 | 4807 / 1741 |
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San Francisco, CA
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5201 / 895 | 5701 / 1723 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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4755 / 892 | 5803 / 1714 |
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Dallas, TX
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5088 / 884 | 9737 / 1740 |
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Chicago, IL
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5359 / 805 | 14639 / 1720 |
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Atlanta, GA
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4161 / 767 | 14658 / 1749 |
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New York City
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5595 / 908 | 14634 / 1755 |
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Washington, DC
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5394 / 906 | 12595 / 1722 |
Cable Modem vs FiOS – Mac OS X – Firefox
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Cable Modem
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FiOS
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Seattle, WA
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4384 / 868 | 4583 / 1562 |
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San Francisco, CA
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5156 / 892 | 5744 / 1593 |
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Los Angeles, CA
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5107 / 892 | 5841 / 1709 |
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Dallas, TX
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4095 / 900 | 9662 / 1664 |
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Chicago, IL
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4836 / 903 | 14598 / 1722 |
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Atlanta, GA
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4942 / 906 | 14474 / 1722 |
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New York City
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5644 / 899 | 14401 / 1755 |
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Washington, DC
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5396 / 897 | 14705 / 1746 |
High to Low
Here is a comparison between FiOS and my cable modem service showing the highest and lowest speed test numbers from all of the tests I ran.
The Highs
FiOS: The highest download speed was 14784 MB
Cable: The highest download speed was 5654 MB
FiOS: The highest upload speed was 1784 MB
Cable: The highest download speed was 925 MB
The Lows
FiOS: The lowest download speed was 4803 MB
Cable: The lowest download speed was 2325 MB
FiOS: The lowest upload speed was 1199 MB
Cable: The lowest download speed was 503 MB
Test Computers and Routers Used
The Cablevision cable modem was connected to a Linksys BEFW11S4 wireless router (I have had in the past an Apple Airport Extreme connected here with no different results). The Verizon FiOS was connected with their provided D-Link DI-624 wireless router. Both routers had the latest firmware. All computers were wired using new Cat 5E Belkin cables to the routers for tests. Wireless tests (not-published here) had relatively the same speeds as the computers were located close to the wireless routers.
The computers used for tests were:
HP Laptop. AMD Turion 64 Mobile 784 MHz, 384 RAM with Windows XP Professional using IE and latest Firefox 1.5.0.1.
Sony Viao Desktop P4 1.8 GHz, 512 RAM with Windows XP Professional using IE and latest Firefox 1.5.0.1.
Apple Powerbook G4 1.67GHz with 1.5GB RAM, OS 10.4.4 using Safari 2.03 and latest Firefox 1.5.0.1. The Apple Broadband Tuner was NOT installed.
Apple iMac G5 (with built-in iSight) 2.1GHz with 1.5GB RAM, OS 10.4.4 using Safari 2.03 and latest Firefox 1.5.01. The Apple Broadband Tuner was NOT installed.
Speed tests were done using the same site http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/. Testing speed at other sites like on http://www.dslreports.com/stest using MegaPath, linkLINE, and net@ccess came with simalar results. I did not use these site in my published results because they mostly use Java to perform the tests. There have been reports that some of these Java-based tests yieled in accurate tests with browsers other than Internet Explorer on a Windows machine. This is way I used Speakeasy and did the tests with multiple browsers.
* Note: This is the tests I have done myself. I am not a lab, scientist, or testing engineer. I do have many years of engineering, developer experience, IT experience, and video engineering experience. I consider myself an advanced user of technology and the Internet, with expertise in a few areas. This is an example of a real world example at my house. Your experiences may vary. This is not meant to be a definative conculsion.
My Conclusion
Verizon FiOS is absolutely faster than Cablevision cable modem as tested in my house. Especially, upstream being 3 to 4 times faster consistantly. Download speeds vary depending on where you test with. Closer sites will usually give you faster speeds as I expected. But even to the slower sites, the cable modem was slower in every single test. The cable modem did not beat FiOS in any test including the “ping” tests.
Also note that the cable modem was slower during primetime Internet use than the tests I did in the early morning, as cable modems are on shared networks with your neighbors. The FiOS speeds were more consistant no matter when I tested. For my house, Verizon FiOS was the clear winner, and at the same price per month an better value. So for me a good decision to switch. Since the need for Internet connectivity is like “air” in our home, I do not take this lightly.
I will let the math experts among you average all the numbers out and come to your own conculsions.
I experienced no Mac compatibility issues with my FiOS installation as did my co-worker, last summer. I have not seen any speed differences between platforms and have not installed Apple Broadband Tuner download. This is probably due to the better “ping” times I have on my Verizon FiOS installation compared to the Cablevision cable modem. Again, your “mileage” may vary.
Pictures FiOS Installation
Optical Network Terminal (ONT) on side of our house

Backup Battery and Power Supply inside our house (basement)

D-Link Router in office

Verizon includes email with Verizon FiOS including webmail. They offer up to 9 additional sub-email accounts. As always I suggest using GMail, Yahoo!. or some other email account other than your ISP’s mail so you do not feel “locked in” to your ISP for email. How many people do you still know paying AOL for email way after they moved to broadband and no longer need AOL?
Verizon also offers 1GB of online storage and personal web space included with your account. They do block port 80 for outgoing, so running a web server is not available to you. They also block port 25 for any email except Verizon. This is the common among ISPs including Cablevision. You may need to use the outgoing mail server for all your mail go out using the settings Verizon will give you if you use mail other than Verizon in Apple Mail, Entourage, or Outlook. Or consider webmail like GMail, .Mac, Yahoo!, or another service. Verizon email is fully compatible with Macintosh. This is the same deal as with Cablevision.
I am happy to be finally connected to Verizon FiOS Internet service and able to get better download and upload speeds than the Cablevision cable modem service. Cablevision has way “over-hyped” the speed of thier cable modem’s for years, advertising 10MB and now 15MB downstream. I have never at any time, gotten much over 5MB downstream, no matter what platform or time of day I have tried. During primetime, our download speed is even lower. The upload speeds on the Cablevision Optimum Online cable modem service are slow compared to Verizon FiOS. The upload speed is important to me as I use video conferencing, VoIP, web conferencing, FTP, and webDAV daily. But even sending email, especially with large attachments can be painful on a slow upstream connection. If you do a lot of online gaming, upload speed and “ping” times are also very important.
Cablevision has been out to the house several times when I complained of my slow download speeds. Their technicians saw my speeds, tried to adjust things with NO improvements. They told me they would return after adjusting stuff somewhere else in the neighborhood, never returning. After a few of these service calls, it is obvious their speed claims, and their constant commercials here in New Jersey claiming all great things about their fiber optic network is very over-hyped! Cablevision, like most cable companies only run “fiber” to a neighborhood or a territory, not your home. This is one reason their upload speeds are so slow. The cable companies usually do not “home-run” the connection from your home, it is shared on the same cable back to the aggregation point. The cable modem service by its nature is a shared cable or pipe. At primetime, the time of day when many people are using the Internet the most, in my area, my speed was pitiful most times.

Nothing like having fiber right to the side of your house. As the cable company’s TV commercials like to say sarcastically, “are you STILL using a tel-e-phone line?” I can now say ” are you STILL using copper?” Remember, when the cable company talk about fiber, it is NOT to your house.
I am sure the speed differences and price will be an even wider gap as time goes by and the marketplace decides. With Verizon’s merger with MCI, I think you will see even better Internet services from Verizon soon. With fiber right to the side of your house, uping the speeds is much easier as the limitation of copper does not exist with fiber. Cablevision is spending tons on advertising the speed of their cable modem comparing it to Verizon DSL in my area, never mentioning Verizon FiOS or the fact that DSL is cheaper. Comparing my cable modem speeds, I can not see how Cablevision can claim they are 3-to-5, 10 or even 15 times faster than DSL and keep a straight face! DSL speeds from Verizon and others are 3M/768K $29.95 or the cheaper $14.95 DSL is about 768k/128K. But DSL from Speakeasy can be as fast as 6M/768K. Few offer the upload speed of Verizon FiOS.

Interestingly, upon canceling the cable modem service from Cablevision we were informed by the Cablevision employee, that Verizon FiOS is NOT faster than Cablevision’s Optimum Online! Well my tests and long time user of Cablevision’s Optimum Online tell a much different story. How can Cablevision claim to be faster than FTTP (Fiber-to-the-Premises), with fiber connected directly to our house? Are they not the people that tell us how fiber is better in all their ads?
It would be hard for a shopping consumer know what speed Optimum Online even offers. I defy you to find the published speed of residential Optimum Online, even on the Optimum Online website! They seem to hide it well. Go ahead give it a whirl, all it says all over is that it 150 times faster than dial up, triple the speed of DSL (which DSL?), and even the TV ads claim 5 times faster, 10 times faster, 15 times faster, than DSL (again which DSL?). A bit vague, I would say. This should not surprise you too much when you realize it is hard to even get the “real” price of Optimum Online, as the website only gives you the discounted price for the first 12 months! At least Verizon publishes thier speeds on the FiOS website.
When Cablevision visited our house and saw less than 5MB download, the technicians were not only not surprised, but could do little to correct it. So apparently, if you are lucky to be located next to a node, your speed may be faster. The pitful upload speed of Optimum Online could not compare to Verizon FiOS. Of course, Cablevision is offering Optimum Online Boost that claims to offer 30MB/2MB in only select areas (not my area) at higher prices. This speed they seem to have no problem publishing. But alas the price is not so easy to see on the website, I guess you have to call!
We still have Cablevision for our TV service. We are anxious to see the Verizon FiOS TV offering when it becomes available. Verizon and the cable companies are in a battle here in New Jersey on cable franchising. The cable companies are doing their best to slow the competition from the telco, and the telco is trying to obtain TV franchising as fast as possible. The cable companies are trying to sign people to a contract offering slightly better pricing as the competition from the telcos heat up. My advice is sign no long term contracts if you care about quality and speed.
Anyway with the cable modem gone and “bested” by Verizon FiOS Internet, we will now be free to look at satellite TV also. I had Direct TV and Verizon DSL for years at my old house. The satellite companies seem to have a better HD TV service and better prices than cable TV, at least for now. Competition is a good thing for consumers, I think. Having a choice of TV providers will be great. No more cable TV monopoly. Eventually, this should lead to better TV service for consumers and hopefully better prices.
If you interested in FiOS TV see Verizon FiOS TV Installed, Cablevision Out
 
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Great review!! I am a mac user that is scheduled for an fios install the 2nd week of March. We have a mixed home network with mac’s and windows machines. Verizon has already been by to discuss the curb to house wiring options. I was not home as we live in townhomes, I must discuss this with my neighbors. Is there any chance the ONT could be installed inside as I am putting a board on my wall for the battery backup? I must be lucky because my Comcast cable speeds are around 8000 down and 650 up but I do experience the network congestion at prime times. I know fiber is the future and I am looking forward to the TV service as well because unlike the internet my TV signal is very poor. I use my isight camera frequently and would like more speed and bandwidth. Do you know anything about Verizons wiring? We have 3 computers on the ground floor next to the garage and 1 in an office on the 3rd floor. I ordered wiring for the 3rd floor computer (we use linksys wiring over power lines now –works pretty well) but I want an ethernet connection in that room. I have to make a decision on where to put the router. I wonder if I should use it on the ground floor or put it in the garage, a more centrally placed location. Since any additional connections must start from the router I am wondering about the central garage location. I have never had the router far from at least 1 machine (using linksys WRT54G ) but i am thinking of having a centrally located router and using switches in the family room which has 3 computers. Sorry to ramble but if you have any feedback it would be appreciated. again thanks for assuring a high level of service and dispelling some of the myths about networking macs. Mark
Mark,
Good luck with your FiOS connection. The ONT can probably be put inside your garage. My co-worker has it installed that way. In my case the connection from the street was on the other side of the house. Verizon provided me with a wireless router. My suggestion is to place it in the middle of the house for best coverage using wireless. Run cat 5 cables if you want wired connections to some machines. In my house only one desktop is wireless as it is hard to get a cable there. Only laptops are wireless. We have many machines.
Stephen
I’m curious if you’ve experieced your IP changing many times a day with the FIOS, which is a complaint I’ve read about. If so, does your video conferencing system get all confused when the IP changes? I’ve just orderd FIOS, and I’m now concerned that it’ll affect the use of my iSight/iChat with my daughter off at college.
Thanks in advance.
Eric,
Generally a dynamic IP address will change when your router reboots, loses power, etc. It usually stays the same, although their is no guarantee. This is the same for all dynamic IP adress services like a cable modem, DSL, or FiOS. Unless you want to pony up the cost of a static IP address, you have little choice.
But this would only effect H.323 video conferencing that needs to have a static public IP address to take incoming calls. This would not effect iChat/iSight conferencing as it uses a point-of-presence (buddy list) to find participants and does not care about IP addresses at all. In fact, you will find that iChat/iSight conferences over FiOS works better than over most cable modems due to the FiOS superior upstream speed (usually 2MB). Remember when video conferencing, upload and download speeds are important.
Stephen Antonucci
ReelSmart.com
excellent, thorough review. i found your speed tests interesting having just switched over from dsl to fios last week and checking speeds from the west coast (socal) to various servers across the country.
i’m curious about the latency you discussed. i also run mac and windows and i have the opposite problem. my mac continually gets close to 15MB down but my laptops running xp only get ~6-7MB down. Both systems get ~1.7MB up consistently. I checked the latency and get 85ms which based on your results is very high, but it’s the same for both xp and osx.
i found your review searching for info regarding fios speed tests and to see if there downloads actually help speed up the computer or are just full of marketing crap. i downloaded the broadband tuner for the mac but didn’t install it because the speed is fine there despite the high latency.
any ideas as to what could be slowing down the xp machines? the verizon techs downloaded the verizon applications to the mac, but i really don’t want to install them on xp because i’m like you and feel it’s all marketing gimmics.
thanks,
erik
good review. i just got an intel imac with 2 gigs ram and have 15000/2000 fios. my speed test is fine but my ping test is over 82 consistently. i have broadband tuner installed on os 10.4.5. my internet does not seem any faster on intel mac than previous g4 mini. any suggestions to improve speed/ decrease latency. thanks.
g,
If your speed test is ok. I guess that is a good thing. You can not improve your latency, only Verizon can do that. I expect that will happen as they are improving as an ISP and moving over to MCI bigger faster pipes. As FiOS grows so will the core.
I am not too surprised as to the Intel Mac not being very much faster on your Internet connection as the speed of the machine helps, but is not the major factor. If you installed the broadband tuner, that is the best you can do right now as the broadband tuner is a packet-shaper to compensate for the latency you seem to have.
Stephen Antonucci
ReelSmart.com
Excellent article! I just (2 hours ago) had Verizon FiOS installed in northern MA. I wanted to tell you and warn others of problem I encountered. Upon completion, the tech checked my internet connection, which was fine, but made no effort in setting up my primary email account. I caught him as he was driving away and he said to go to ‘activatemyfios.verizon.net’ to set up. This site auto downloads a dmg file, which upon mounting runs an application to walk you through set-up. Fair enough, but it does not warn you of the consequences. It set up Apple’s Mail program for the primary Verizon email account – AND ERASED MY PREVIOUS COMCAST ACCOUNT with all my emails (some of which were very important)!!! The Comcast account is still active, btw. I can’t believe Verizon’s software can be so malicious as to delete an account without authorization! I immediately contacted tech support and they had never heard of this happening (but then again, he looked down on me for having a Mac anyway). Hopefully someone will benefit from reading this and NOT use Verizon’s app for set-up.
Christopher,
Thanks for sharing your experience. I would hope that Verizon Tech Support learns form its mistakes. Manual set-up for email is a better idea moving forward or better yet using a Gmail account instead as it does not lock you into the ISP and archives everything in its huge storage. If you are interested let me know and I would be happy to send you an invite to Gmail if you want.
And don’t worry, when the tech support gets “nailed” by the next worm and virus (all he needs to do is visit a bad website using IE) and he loses his data, you can look down on him!
Stephen Antonucci
ReelSmart.com
Me again, with an update to the deleted email. One possibile reason for this happening is that I used the same name on my Verizon account as on my Comcast account. It may have seen the account name, assumed this was a DSL upgrade, and may have made changes to it. I did find a way to retrieve my old email and wanted to share to help any others with similiar problems. In searching (after I calmed down a bit), I realized that the mail still existed in the user/Library/Mail directory. Seeing this, I simply imported the old mail pointing to said folder and now all is well.
I agree that manual set-up is better and didn’t even realize that Verizon app would apply the settings to Mail. I was simply trying to create the master account. Thank-you for the invites, but I already have several Gmail accounts. Stay safe.
Excellent work! I just got my FIOS installed in Westchester. I’m interested in ‘bridging’ my WiFi by supplementing the Verizon wireless router with my Apple Airport Extreme. Do you know if this is possible?
Travis,
Good luck with your new FiOS connection. You can use an Apple Airport Extreme with FiOS. You can use it as your main router, replacing the DLink VZ installed or add it to your network by connecting it to the DLink router just for Wireless (turning off wireless on the DLink). You can also use it to extend out your wireless network.
Check out my post on Wireless Security for Home Networks. Here is a link for AirPort Express at the Apple site to get you started.
Excellent. Thanks so much Stephen.
T
Stephen
Thanks so much for this info. Sure makes things a lot easier. I will be getting Verizon Fios run to the garage this Wed, 5/3/06 and the finish work will be on Sat, 5-6-06. They certainly have been nice about everything and where I want to put the boxes.
I am running an older Mac, 466MHz Digital Audio, but with a 1GHz upgrade processor, currently with 1G Ram, using Mac OS X 10.4.6. My current DSL is OK, but have been having trouble with Earthlink for around 3 months now..after complaining every weekend to them, they finally found the problem and fixed it, last weekend, but it’s to late. Besides I need higher speed, and it’s cheaper.
Anyway, I was checking out some of the setting you showed and things don’t match up…. I know my Network Preferences, I change Location to Automatic, and in the show pull down, there is Internal Modem, Built-in-Ethernet, or Built in Firewire, also Netowrk Port Configuration. I don’t have a airport card installed…,, If I chose built in ethernet, I don’t get DHCP in the Configure IPv4 pull down, it only shows “Manually, and Using PPP”…
The only way to get Using DHCP in the Comfigure IPv4 pulldown is to select Built in Firewire in the show pulldown and I know this isn’t what I will be wanting…
Can you help???
Much appreciation
Bob
Bob,
In the TCP/IP section of built-in Ethernet you will find DHCP in the pull-down. Good luck with your FiOS install.
Stephen
Stephen
Like I said before. It’s not there. Maybe when the new service is connected it will show up, but it’s not there.
Bob,
The reason I think you do not see DHCP in TCP/IP is probably due to you having “Connect using PPPoE” under the PPPoE tab. When you connect FiOS or DSL you usually want to run PPPoE on the router, not your computer. One reason is running PPPoE on the computer can be problematic with some DSL connections and it is better run on the router than software. Basically never let the ISP install PPPoE client on your machine if you can run it on a router. Especially if you want to share the connection with other computers. And the router will run NAT by using one public IP (usually dynamic) and handing out private IP addresses via DHCP. If you turn off PPPoE in your Built-in Ethernet -> PPPoE you will probably see the DHCP choice in TCP/IP drop-down. Hope this helps.
Stephen Antonucci
I have FIOS installed and love it but only get the 15 MB down speed on my wired computers. My wireless computers (original Airport) only get 3 MB down. This is with Apples Broadband Tuner installed. All machines get 2 MB up. Any ideas?
I got my FiOS installed yesterday. I noticed that the battery backup has 12V output and I plan to wire it to my SunRocket VOIP box (which luckily requires exactly 12V). This should make my VOIP work even during power outages!!!
Bob here again….your last response was correct…actually when I got the new service set up, the DHCP showed up…and my Mac configured itself and was online in a matter of seconds…it even impressed the tech that was here.
Another comment, Verizon in S. California still uses the DI-624 D-Link wireless router and he configured it using Safari….Something has changed….since some of the original info above…oh, btw, he was very impressed with your report here….you just might be hearing from him…he said you really did a very good job….
Also, I have learned something else, if for any reason that your ONT goes to battery backup, it turns off the internet connection and keeps your phone active….they told me it does that to save battery life…
This is so much better than the old DSL…
Also, there is a rumor that Verizon is going to increase the download speed to 30Mb/s for those that have the 15Mb/s service sometime later in the year. The cost will remain the same as the 15Mb/s service…..This is in response to certain cable companies increasing their download speed.
There is one problem, when I put in the new accounts (email) my old mail in my old inbox’s, is missing….I didn’t move the 30 emails out of the inbox to other folders…do you have any idea if they are still around….I looked in the users/library/mail folder, but those old inbox accounts are not there…
Another thing, I configured the accounts in Apple Mail…where I am at, the “Incoming Mail Server” = incoming.verizon.net andthe “Outgoing Mail Server” = outgoing.verizon.net
Anyway, keep up the good work and thanks a lot…
Bob,
Verizon has announced a speed update for FiOS on the East Coast Tri-State area. They are now selling 10MB/2MB, 20MB/2MB in place of the old 5MB/2MB and 15MB/2MB service at the same price for new installs. They will update existing customers in June.
As far as Mail goes I always suggest to people they use a third party mail that is separate from their ISP such as GMail or YahooMail. Too many people get caught up and locked into an ISP due to email accounts. How many people do you know still using AOL just for their email address?
Anyway, I do not use Apple Mail much and prefer webmail. Not that Apple Mail is bad. But if you check out the VZ Central Fios website there probably is a good tutorial for setting up Mail (if not Outlook settings are not that different really). What you will find is when using pop3 or imapi mail clients like Apple Mail or Outlook are a pain on a laptop when traveling as many hotspots and networks block outgoing mail to stop spam. Webmail is better while on the road for this reason.
If you lose power and go to battery on FiOS your router will be down anyway. As it provides connectivity and DHCP for most users setups they would be down anyway. Not to mention desktop computers or laptops with limited battery power.
Unbelievably thorough article – and a great read as well!
Hopefully this isn’t a dumb question… I need high download and upload speeds since I work out of a home office. When work’s done though, I like to get in on some Xbox gaming sessions with my buddies out on the West Coast. The ping issue could be a big problem here…anyone else do any online gaming where this could be an issue?
John,
Ping time is a big issue for gaming, VoIP, and video conferencing. In my FiOS installation the ping times were better than my old cable modem. I can not tell you if you will have the same luck. With Verizon now using the big pipes from MCI (they bought MCI) I bet peering and Internet coennection will improve over their entire network. So chances are you would be fine. Also Verizon seems to be going after “gamers” in a big way, even buying some online gaming companies.
I had almost the same great experience at my townhouse in Germantown, MD. If only now they would get approval to do TV then I could ditch Comcast for good. In a word They SUCK. The Dilbert who came out to do that install was sloppy, and really did not do much more than turn it on. He didn’t even bother to do any tucking in of cables that needed to be run and my son and I had to do that work ourselves. On top of that, he took a dump in my bathroom and didn’t even bother to flush !@#$%. I took pictures of his “Handywork” and am preparing to post them.
Hey, what other settings do you do for the router say security-wise ?
James,
Verizon will be offering TV here in NJ probably by the end of the year. The legislature here just voted yes to a state-wide video franchise, now we are waiting for the governors signature. I will be happy to have a choice.
I have found that neither the cable companies, nor Verizon, or even consumers themselves ever “secure” their routers correctly. Almost all of them come unsecured in the box when you get them. It is important in this day and age to secure, especially a wireless home network not only against hackers, but neighbors that will almost certainly connect to your wireless network without ever even knowing it. I for one do not want to be responsible for the browsing a neighbor might do on my IP address!
You should first off change the username and password of the router.
I have a good article on this site that goes thru the security settings on the small home network. see it here.
I have been searching for the answers to my FiOS Woes…I really prefer client based email for speed/ease of attachment handling…not knowing any better I ran the Verizon set up app. I have not been able to send an email yet using OSX Mail or Entourage. Keep getting “Message Delivery Failed. The Sender address user@verizon.net was rejected by the server. The Server response was 5.7.1 Authentication Required”
Preferences are:
Incoming Mail Server: incoming.verizon.net
Outgoing (SMTP): outgoing.verizon.net Authentication: None
Cannot get a hold of Verizon, so any ideas how to set up my osx Mail?
Jordan,
You need to use Authentication for Verizon Mail. It needs to be setup in all your desired Mail clients. You will find Outlook, Apple Mail, Thunderbird, and Entourage all work find with Verizon Mail.
The SMTP settings are:
outgoing.verizon.net
port 25
Authenication: Password
Username: your account@verizon.net
Password: Your Password
You should of selected your Verizon Online user name and password during the account setup portion of your installation.
Try http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/site/msa/index.jsp?problem=ForgotPassword
to get your username and password if you do not know what they are. You can contact Verizon about email at 1-888-483-6381. I got this phone number off the Verizon Central website.
I personally use Gmail, I like not tying my email to my ISP. I have no trouble with attachments.
Stephen, thanks for a great article!! I ordered FIOS for both internet (5/2) and TV yesterday to replace Comcast. They’re coming to install next Friday. I have 2 computers, a wired XP and a wireless Mac Powerbook running OS X Tiger. For about 6 mos. I haven’t been able to use Safari; it closes after about 5 seconds, giving an error message I can’t recall anymore. I tried reinstalling it, reinstalling Apple’s upgrades, etc. Finally I just switched to Firefox. It works great. Will I need to be able to run Safari for my FIOS installation or can I keep going with Firefox? In Maryland, Verizon gives you the choice of MSN or Yahoo! Premium; I’m going to select the Yahoo since they claim it works with the Mac and MSN doesn’t. I already have a free Yahoo account, which I may be able to keep? with Verizon’s Yahoo.
Thanks for your great article, again!
Andy
I WANT FIOS! My cable internet upload sucks. Only 256k available in my area for upload.
Hi,
Thanks for the encouraging words about using FIOS and Airport. Unfortunately, my Mac only set-up still doesn’t work except through my hard-wired ethernet port. Just a couple of questions:
Are you connecting from one of the (4) router ports to the Airport Base via the LAN port or via the WAN port?
Even though I’m set up for DHCP and my Airport Network Status says (Airport is connected to the Home Network. You are connected to the internet via Airport.) I can’t get online and my Airport Status keeps scrolling the message: “looking for PPPoE host…” ?
I have know information entered in the PPPoE section.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Michael M
Actually,
I’ll save you the trouble.
I just remembered why I use Mac in the first place. I read my Airport Base Station manual and thought it through a bit and before I knew it . . . I was online at blazing speeds. Thanks anyway, your article got me inspired. FIOS is great!
Sincerely,
Michael M
Michael M,
Glad you got it working. FiOS works fine with adding an Airport Base station or using the wireless router that Verizon provides with Macs.
Wow! So much good info. I’m a long-time Verizon DSL user with hard-wire Linksys router, 1 MacG4, 1 Windows pc, 1 mac ibook & 1 mac book. When I talked to a Mac tech at verizon he told me I needed an airport adapter to run the 2 macbooks wireless, and I can keep the G4 and the windows hard-wired to the new verizon router. The 2 macbooks have airport cards, do I have to buy/install something else on these to use them wireless? Thanks – my FIOS install is scheduled for Oct. 9!
Carol,
If your two MacBooks have Airport Cards, you should have no trouble connecting to the Verizon supplied wireless router. I am running several Macs on the D-Link Verizon suppiled wireless router in my house. I suggest you read my post on Wireless Security for Home Networks at http://www.reelsmart.com/2006/03/26/wireless-security-for-home-networks/ to understand tha basics of securing the wireless connection as most techs installing this stuff seem to be clueless and leave them “wide-open” to intruders. Bottom line is you should have to “buy” nothing. Apple wireless is standards-based and no different than Windows. Have the Verizon tech read my blog if he needs help. Good luck with FiOS, you should enjoy the faster speeds.
Stephen,
My FIOS install went well, except that I should have ordered a higher speed & I wasn’t aware of the various speeds available in our area when I placed the order. Anyways, the Tech wasn’t a real MAC fan, but got everything online in about 10 minutes. I mentioned changing passwords on the router like you suggest, and he said it wasn’t necessary since the router is web encrypted, or something like that. I’ll look at your link again & will probably follow YOUR suggestions anyways. One glitch so far is my daughter’s MacBookPro has something wrong with iTunes not recognizing the network, but I haven’t taken a look at it myself. Now, if I could just get my husband to ditch his PC for a new Mac, our household will be more cohesive.
I’ve Bookmarked your site for future. Thanks again!
~Carol
Carol,
In my experience many times the “non-Mac fans” are just afraid of what is unknown to them. Then the install happens and the Mac connects instantly and the Windows machine struggle starts. If you ask the Verizon techs what is ther biggest challenge installing FiOS, they will tell you without question Microsoft Windows!
As far as security, I have found the techs are not trained to secure wireless networks and basically no not see it as a problem. Any informed computer user knows the default username and passwords for all the home routers out there. I suggest changing the password is important as anyone within range can get into your router very easily. Using encryption such as WPA is pretty important. See my post on Wireless Security for Home Networks at http://www.reelsmart.com/2006/03/26/wireless-security-for-home-networks/.
I recently got FIOS to try out. I’m getting rid of it ASAP.
The guy who came to my house to set up the connection, went right to my mac and installed the account setup.
I’m lucky to use web base mail. HOWEVER…IT DELETED ALL OF MY SAFARI BOOKMARKS. Thousands of bookmarks I and my family uses over the past 3 years, all gone. And why? so Verizon could replace them with a few crappy Verizon bookmarks.
Verizon has lost all my trust. I don’t care if I have to go back to my Time Warner cable modem. It’s always been fast for me (3 computers online, someone on X-Box live, all at the same time, no lag on the computers or X-Box).
So what if it’s faster, Verizon’s got nerve…and I’ve seen complaints over a year old about this. They can’t even fix a year old problem!?
Matt,
Wow, I have not heard of any Verizon Tech installing anything on a Mac. I have advised that people not allow them to install anything on their Windows machines as it just adds stuff they do not need.
Matt, what did they add to your Mac? You have no backup? Usually the only thing needed is to have the Mac setup for DHCP in the network preferences. Sorry to hear about your problem. Can you tell us more?
I will be more then happy to Stephen.
After he installed outside, the tech came in and went to my Mac and installed the installer located at https://activatemyfios.verizon.net/, I should have stopped him, but at the time thought nothing of it. He did nothing with the Mac settings, he went right to Safari and went to that web address.
It seemed like it was going to simply set up my account, e-mail, etc. with Verizon. Before my eyes, Safari closes and reopens. All bookmarks gone, replaced with Verizon Bookmarks.
And! After searching online…I’m not the first to lose their Safari bookmarks. This is happened numerous times…stemming as far back as almost a year ago!
You can check out more at this blog I came across:
red-sweater.com/blog/?p=78
I really thought nothing of it. I’ve never had a problem since with computers since I switched from Windows to Mac about 2 years ago. I never created a backup for my bookmark files. (According the the blogger above, the installer script “accidently” makes a backup, but I’ve yet to find it…)
In addition, from readin that blog, people lost all of their mail from the Mail application from this installer as well. I’m really bothered by this as well, as I recently purchased a domain to use the mail application as I’ve had bad experience with webmail. I’m afraid to use my own computer as I feel Verizon’s terrible script writing will erase anything important I use it for.
If anyone could help in anything: getting my bookmarks back, getting rid of the crap Verizon installed on my computer, assuring me the Mail application is safe, I’d be very appreciated.
Verizon’s help has been terrible. I’ve called multiple times, I had people from Verizon telling me “Oh, your bookmarks were left behind with your old ISP” (WOW can you believe that one. I almost screamed at the idiot in disgust) and I was told “that’s not our fault, it’s Apple’s problem” (to which I replied, it’s Apple’s fault you carelessly wrote a script that’s been doing this to people for over a year”. Only when I called and said, I’d like to cancel (which they seemed shocked at, especially since it was just installed in my house no more then 2 hours earlier), did they send a “specialist” to the phone who tried to help. When he couldn’t, he said Verizon would give me an extra month of FIOS free. I scoffed at what they deem as “fixing the problem” and said I didn’t care, I wanted to cancel. He then put me on hold, only to tell me a Mac specialist was going to call up and fix the problem. He called, had me e-mail him a few files, and said he’d get back to me ASAP. He has yet to get back to me….2 days now.
Again, if anyone can help, it would be much appreciated.
Matt,
This sounds horrible. I checked out the site at http://red-sweater.com/blog/?p=78 as you pointed out. My only idea I have if your Bookmarks.plist file has been re-written is if you had a .Mac account and synced your bookmarks there.
I think the excuses you are getting from Verizon’s techs is mostly a lack of knowledge on their part. Blaming Apple of course is ridiculous. If they wrote a script that re-writes your Bookmarks and Mail settings replacing them with their own, this is pretty invasive. When my co-workers and I had FiOS installed I did NOT allow them to install anything on my Macs or PCs. The Verizon Tech activated the account from one of my Windows PCs, not installing anything. I do not use Verizon Mail at all. I never liked using any ISP’s Mail and like the flexibility of having an ISP independent email account.
Please keep us informed, as this blog story has gotten alot of readers wanting FiOS and I would like them to understand the problems you have experienced. Also more than one Verizon person has read this blog.
Just a note on TV. I wanted the entire Verizon package largely based on your Internet connection review and a need to change my phone service anyway (even though it is now Verizon). I currently have Comcast in Reston, VA and am sick of dealing with them on billing issues, and various other screwups.
So, I called to get pricing for what I wanted, particularly on the FIOS TV service which is available here, but whose package pricing is not well stated on their website. Bottom line is: every TV set in the house has to have a settop box!!! Unless all you want is local TV channels which is ridiculous, and even if you do not get the DVR that allows replays in multiple rooms simultaneously. I don’t want a DVD player-sized box attached to all my TVs (the one on the kitchen table is only a 14″ set for heaven’s sake!), so I will now rethink my entire plan for which I had such high hopes.
Before considering getting the TV service, note that you will be adding a LOT of equipment with its attendant plug space, electricity consumption, and above space requirements!
Henry,
I could not agree more with you about set top boxes. I hate them. But I am afraid to say that unfortunately this is the way it is these days. All the cable companies in my area, and satellite TV providers are using set top boxes these days in my area, so this leaves little choice. I personally have stayed with analog cable as long as I could to avoid the boxes. But Cablevision has totally neutered analog cable by first taking the ability of HBO, Encore, Starz, etc. away, giving me blank channels where they used to be!
I now have ONLY basic channels and Cablevision is continuing to remove programing recently removing Turner American Movie Classics channel without a reduction in price. I am down to about 50 channels and paying way too much for this lousy programming while Cablevision is pushing Digital Cable at us.
This leaves us little choice but to pick Cablevision IO, Satellite TV, or FiOS when it becomes available here. All have boxes that they all charge “per” TV for monthly! This is the reason they want you to have a box, money! If you want HD you need to pay for a HD box in most cases, if you want to record, another DVR is needed at an additional charge.
The industry was said to be moving toward “cable cards” which will allow you to get a card from your TV provider and slip it into tha newer cable card ready TVs. But do not count on an adoption of this technology anything soon, maybe never.
The plan for FiOS and the cable company is to add more features like cameras, etc into these set top boxes. I am sure for yet another addtional charge.
So I could not agree more with your delemma.
You are all so right about the cable industry boxing us into these huge set top boxes. It’s frustrating how the TVs get smaller, but the cable boxes get bigger and with clunkier remotes. Verizon saturated us with phone, mail and email ads about FIOS (Anne Arundel County, MD) and it looked like their whole FIOS system was wireless (it’s not). You have to pay extra $$$ for the DVR and a package that lets you watch recorded programs from that DVR on any TV in the house. We were fed up with Comcast and after being satisfied with Verizon DSL for over 6 years, I thought it was a good time to change to FIOS. However, I am disappointed with the hidden costs of FIOS and I’m now spending more $$$ than I did with Comcast. The Internet is OK for most of our MACS, but my husband’s Windows PC is having mail problems. As for the MAC email, I’ve used the Verizon email for personal use for years, but have noticed increased SPAM in the last 9 mos. or so (before FIOS). Lots of the (send to) addresses are verizon.net and I wonder if Verizon email lists are being sold or floating freely in cyberspace. I’ve made lots of rules in the Mac OSX email and it seems like they don’t filter very well. I still need to call Verizon to straighten out some things with my account, but I haven’t had HOURS to wait on hold or be cut off – last time I called Verizon it took 6 different operators and a couple of redials to get to someone competent. Notice how Verizon always ends their calls with a “thank you,” and “have I answered all your questions today?” They really should tell you more up front than they do, but that last line seems to be their CYA. I did not lose my Safari bookmarks, but I am still on OS10.3.9 Panther. Is Tiger any better for email, or should I wait for Leopard to be available? I’m thinking of ditching my Verizon email account no matter what. BTW: Comcast called and offered our previous package at half the price.
Verizon is coming to my house to install FiOs on Dec 13th… prior to then I’m going to fish the walls from my basement to my second story office with Cat-5 cable. My question: Should I put plugs on each end of the cable or let Verizon do that? If so, should I have it be female in the basement (where it’ll connect to the ONT equipment) and a male wall jack in the office (for the router)?
Any help is appreciated.
Outstanding, common sense, and thorough review!
Covers all aspects of home networking, and which service provides the fastest access. Fios is being installed on 01/02/07 in my home, and like the reviewer, I have had Optimum for years. Though uptime has been gotten better these past years, the performance has degraded. I just put in VOIP (two lines) for home office. It sucks, which I attribute to low bandwidth. My neighbor put in Fios, and I ran speed speed tests, he’s doing twice the speed (Upload and Download) that I am with Optimum for $10.00 less than I’m paying. And that’s on a crappy Notebook, using wireless! I popped for the 20Mbps Download/5Mbps upload package, which works out to be the same as what I’m paying Optimum for 15Mbps Download/2Mbps Upload. Thanks for this excellent review, great job!!
This is a thoughtful, thorough and well written review. I appreciate the time you took… everything I needed to know (and was curious about) is here. I ate it up. Thanks dude.
Glenn Gury
Unbelievably thorough article – and an oustanding read as well!
Installing Broadband Tuner dropped my latency from 60ms+to 7ms+ on 5/2mbs Fios installation.
Thanks.
I currently have FIOS with my Mac and am using the wired D-Link DI-604 router. I want to set up a wireless connection in anticipation of Apple TV and to get my wife’s computer on-line sharing eht connection. I a a little confused though as there apparently 3 high speed cables connected to het back of hte D-Link and my Airport Extreme only has one connection for the LAN.
What am I missing here? And I concur with the opinions of others here. This is a VERY useful article.
Thanks!
David,
Both the DLink and the Airport Extreme are routers. The DLink 604 has 4 wired ports, the Airport Extreme has (depending on which model) probably has one wired port. The Airport Extreme also has wireless and a USB port to connect a supported printer allowing for wireless printing.
You could actually use the Apple Airport to replace the DLink or use them together. To use them together just connect the Airport Extreme to one of the wired DLink ports and use the wireless features of the Airport. In this case you are not using the Airport as your router, the DLink is your router and the Airport is being used as a wireless base station for laptops. See Apple intructions for setup.
Airport can work with the Apple TV, but wired is better. If you want to use wireless I suggest you lock down the Airport to use 802.11g or if you have the latest Airport unit 802.11n for more thru-put.
See: http://www.reelsmart.com/2006/03/26/wireless-security-for-home-networks/ for more help.
Thanks for reading ReelSmart.
Thinking of switching from Cablevision to FiOS. Looks like I hit the right place for info. Great. Thanks to all.
Oh, may be a dumb question: Before I switch from AOL email to gmail, do I have to inform everyone of my new email address as @gmail? I’m concerned about continuing to receive email from different institutions, such as colleges if my email address changes and they don’t actually make the change. Suggestions? Thanks.
Sandy
Sandy,
Recently AOL now allows you to keep your email address when you cancel a dial up plan. Changing email is a lot like switching your telephone number. Your number changes and you need to give the new one to friends and relatives. You can have the phone company forward your calls to the new number for awhile, same with email.
Problem is some email accounts with some vendors are not forwarded as they use this to lock you in. In the case of AOL, they have had a change of heart lately and allow you to keep your email free to use from their website. You may be able to “forward” your email, but I do not think AOL has this feature. At least it was not sp apparent when I checked last time.
You will find FiOS Internet speeds and service probably better than Cablevision, we should did.
Wow, a lot of information! I scanned you’re article-very detailed. I live in Tualatin, OR (suburb of Portland) and in the apartments I live in they’re doing a “forced†installation of Verizon’s FiOS. Right now I have Comcast’s basic cable internet service and for the most part I’m relatively pleased with it. My set up: because our apartments are very old, there is no internet hookup in the room with the computer, so I have about 55 or so feet of coax running from the wall in the living room to the cable modem in the computer room (the coax splits in the living room to connect to the TV.) I have a Mac G4 dual 533 w/768mb RAM and I’m running 10.3.9. For the most part I have a pretty good, fast, reliable connection, but there’s times when it seems like I click on a page and then go read some Tolstoy and drink tea for awhile while it loads and there are other times when I think about bringing up a page and it loads before I can click on it. I do like to download music from the iTunes store (so that’s 4-5 songs at a time, each between 3-5mb) and that takes a while, but other than that…I did a few tests on the Speakeasy site (I did three and I noticed that the download speeds got progressively slower while the upload speeds stayed about the same-curious.) The 2nd result was from the Seattle server: download was 6645 kbps and up was 357. I see that Verizon is offering a plan for 15Mbps for $50 a month, which is about the same I pay for Comcast, but it seems a whole lot faster, plus when V installs the FiOS I believe they’ll be doing an installation in the room with the computer. I’m not married to Comcast so I really don’t have reason to stay with them, right?
Jacob,
Glad you found the article useful. I just had FiOS TV added to our house and will be posting about it in detail soon. If your experience is like ours, you should find the speed of FiOS Internet superior and more consistent than your cable modem. Also FiOS has much better upload speeds, which is important for anyone using VoIP, Slingbox, or uploading pictures or files to the Internet. In our area in north Jersey the FiOS TV offered more channels at better quality than Cablevision.
Good luck with your installation. Sounds like you are lucky as many apartment dwellers have been cut out of FiOS as an option due to landlord/owner issues. Any new service should be a nice improvement for you, especially if the price is less!
I hope when Stephen posts his description of the FIOS-TV installation, he a) chastises Verizon for foisting an oversized cable box on every TV in the house; b) reminds Verizon that the box technically need be no larger than a cigarette case which would make it possible for many of us who have TVs on our kitchen tables or in front of our exercise machines also to benefit from the other advantages of FIOS; and c) tells us how HE solved this annoying settop box problem in the tighter corners of his own home…
There are some extenders, I understand, that will let you place the set top box elsewhere and still access it with a remote. Anyone care to describe them in any detail and how they work? Pictures?
Rgds,
Henry
Henry
Thanks for your reply. I have now posted on FiOS TV. See http://www.reelsmart.com/2007/03/15/verizon-fios-tv-installed-cablevision-out/.
I give as complete a review as I can. As always I give my honest unbiased opinions and point out the weak and the strong points. As always I hope readers will find the article informative and entertaining. In this case I hope it may help them make a good decision if they are looking for a cable TV provider.
Give it a read and comment. Thanks for reading what I write.
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I have a tentative order for Fios–have some cushion while I check out some of the technical issues with our cross platform home–3 macs and a underutilized PC. This is such a good article and I’ve bookmarked it to read again later. I learned so much. Have had Verizon DSL for a number of years with no complaints other than Verizon’s general customer service. As soon as they learn there are Macs AND a PC, they bail. And don’t even mention Airport! Because of my concerns, which you have begun to put to rest, about Mac compatibility issues, I just wanted to go for the Fios TV, only to be told that Fios TV and Verizon DSL are incompatible and that I’d have to “migrate” the DSL to Fios. Sheesh! The package is cheaper than what I pay now for phone/internet/cable TV so it’s enticing, not to mention the speed.
I’ll be back if I have any more specific questions and to read more.
Thanks all.
I just installed Verizon DSL on my PowerBook G4, and it erased all of my bookmarks. The “backup” file it created was blank. (It also erased my history, so I can’t use that to reconstitute anything.) My first call to tech support was fruitless – the guy sent me to Apple. Surprise – Apple couldn’t help. So I called Verizon back, and the person I spoke to immediately insisted there was nothing he could do. That does seem to be true. I’m angry that he didn’t even bother to sound sorry, much less that Verizon is knowingly distributing software that screws up Safari. I’m going to submit a complaint to the Better Business Bureau just for the heck of it.
Outstanding, and thorough review! Thank you so much, I loved being a little knowledgeable when the tech showed up.
Our Fios was installed today. I’m in Northern Virginia and a couple of things are different from your original review. They no longer use Cat 5 cable for the wireless router they use RG6 cable. All our Macs are wireless (iMac, Powerbook G4 and iBook). The macs found the wireless router instantly.
We registered our email account online with no software to download and no bookmarks lost.
The Verizon techs were great! They had to be creative running the cables in our old home, very patient. They were courteous and knowledgeable. The only screwup was on Verizon’s end, we were suppose to have our cable run underground and that did not happen. So a temporary line was run to the house from the pole and they will run it underground later this week.
Crystal,
Glad you had a nice experience with the FiOS install. I think you will see that the Cat 5 cabling is for Ethernet back to the ONT and the RG6 is for FiOS TV for video. So usually both are run for most installations.
FiOS is a great service. We are looking forward to the guide to be updated soon. Good luck with your FiOS and thanks for reading ReelSmart. I hope you found my website helpful.
Interestingly enough, my cable speeds are comparable to your FiOS speeds. Verizon knocked on my door earlier this week asking if they can use my personal easement to lay fiber optic cable, and they told me that FiOS will be available around Easter of next year. But now I wonder if it’s worth it, if the speeds aren’t that much faster….
Mary,
FiOS is generally faster than most cable provided solutions. Especially in the upload, My current speed is 20Mbps down/5Mbps upload. Few cable companies offer speeds of 5MB up. FiOS TV generally has better picture quality also. If the pricing fits it may be worth it as FiOS has in no way hit the bandwidth limit, few cable companies can say this with a straight face!
Our FiOs install was very successful a couple of months ago. I anticipated the installation with the lowest of expectations, figuring that was the way to avoid disappointment. And I was not optimistic when the nice young man who came to install said he knew nothing about Macs (We have three, and one Dell PC) and not much about networking. Had to wonder how he got his job, but those were the cards I was dealt so I let him proceed.
I was not really interested in the FiOS internet; I had Verizon DSL and was satisfied enough and figured, “if it ain’t broke….” But V told me if I had FiOS TV–what I was really interested in (and in giving Comcast the boot)–my DSL had to “migrate” to FiOs, too. Oh well.
Everything went just fine, but I don’t think the nice young man really understood why. So I will give credit to the Macs and that he didn’t try to mess with them much and they just recognized the new configuration and connected.
As you can tell, I am not as technically adept or knowledgable as many others here. I am grateful that everything continues to work but cannot talk in terms of upload/download time, packets and such, and hope it continues as the one thing I dread is having to call Verizon customer service which I find in most instances to be an oxymoron.
The information here did give me some confidence in considering the switch and I will continue to visit in the hopes of learning more. Thanks.
i have a question maybe you’ve encountered
i have verizon and os x 10.4.9 and safari, when i try to make a web page at verizon, i guess they use a web builder program, that seems incompatable with system 10.4 on macs. all i see is html.
is there a workareound?
I suggest you try Firefox. The web builder may be incompatible with Safari. Download Firefox from here:
http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/firefox/
I was wondering if the ONT has a certain codec that it uses and also how that may effect its compatability with analog phone equipment in the house. Does the ONT have a protocol that you know of that deals with the different traffics coming on the wavelength devoted to IPTV, phone and internet? That you know of, have there been any compatability problems between FiOS and analog equipment conncted to the POTS jacks in the house?
Joseph,
The ONT is strickly a fiber convertor. FiOS telephones are not actual VoIP. The voice signal travels over the fiber to the CO (cental office) to the normal phone soft switch a lot like POTS but over fiber. There fore the sound quality is usually a bit better than the old copper lines. FiOS is compatible with all the standard phone jacks in your house and analog phone equipment. No codec is used insde the ONT, it is just a AD fiber convertor. In VZ network they use lambdas to separate voice, video, and data traffic.
Excellent article, and it allays some of my fears about put a Mac based household onto FIOS. The only part I still dread, is that if I have to use their wireless router, I will have to reconfigure my four airport devices, and I think I may have lost the passwords for all of them (I know…). Would they be amenable to letting me use my Apple router as is?
Paul,
The Actiontec router they are now using is not bad. You will probably want to use their router as it has a the built-in NIM for VOD for FiOS TV and puts them on the hook for support of the router.
You can easily shut off the wireless section of the provided router connect the Apple Airpot via Ethernet and use the Airport as your wireless access point.
I am using the Actiontec router (I had them upgrade the original D-Link) with several Airpot express units running Airtunes with no problems.
I recently had FiOS installed and I am now having what Verizon suggests in a “unique” problem – every time I open Firefox 2 or open a new window, the verizon dmg remounts to my system and attempts to finalize my install, which I have already finalized I’ve lots count of how many times. Running Mac Os X 14.4 and Firefox 2 and I am not sure what other specs might help. Anyone else having this issue? They suggested I uninstall Firefox, but then couldn’t tell me how to do that.
I went to terminal and entered the ping command to test for latency and nothing ever returned.
It only said
PING a.root-servers.net (198.41.0.4): 56 data bytes
I went to terminal and entered the ping command to test for latency and nothing ever returned.
It only said
PING a.root-servers.net (198.41.0.4): 56 data bytes
36 bytes from r1-a-root.brn1.verisign.com (198.41.3.237): Communication prohibited by filter
Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst
4 5 00 5400 5c29 0 0000 35 01 584e 10.0.1.5 198.41.0.4
36 bytes from r1-a-root.brn1.verisign.com (198.41.3.237): Communication prohibited by filter
Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst
4 5 00 5400 5cb6 0 0000 35 01 57c1 10.0.1.5 198.41.0.4
Looks as if Verizon has turned “ping” off on their servers.
Hey there. I know someone posted a question about this but I couldn’t find it when I opened the site. I just got verizon and this verizon.dmg install program opens every time I open firefox.
What can I do to solve this problem?
Thank you so much for your time…..
Not sure what your problem is or if Verizon tech installed something on your Mac? No software is needed on your Mac to use a FiOS connection. Maybe just trash the file.
To Jamie and Carson: I had the same problem with the Verizon dmg that you did. I just figured out how to solve the problem. You need to remove a file from your mac’s hard drive. The easiest way to find the file is to click on the dmg file and then hit apple + i. The box that comes up will tell you where to look for the verizon file. Once you find it, trash it. That solved the problem for me (make sure you’re only trashing the verizon stuff).
Thanks Jennifer.
Does anyone know if Verizon blocks SSL ports required for mail clients using SSL for e-mail? Specifically, Apple Mail using a .Mac account using SSL (ports 587 and 993)?
Thanks much for your advice.
Ricky.
I think they block the standard port 80 per their FAQ. I just haven’t been able to find out about SSL ports.
Ricky,
Like many ISPs they also block port 25 for outgoing mail other than to their own mail server. I have had no problem with Gmail or .Mac mail.
just had FIOS installed yesterday,,,, Actiontec router.
all is well… and working…G5 dual 1.8 with OSX: 10.4.11
inet is fast, TV much clearer than cable (on a 10 year old set),
Really a major shock how good the TV looks and I don’t have a HDef TV! Phone is just like before, no difference. Getting a lil bit higher UL rate than your image shows.
Tech was quick, accurate and even patient with my questions, and I did not bother installing any of their software.
Was soooooooo glad to be rid of COMCAST!!
Big E.
Sounds great. Congrats and enjoy!
Just had Verizon 15/2 FiOS internet installed & connected to my iMac via ethernet cable. Works great & fast. I would like to connect my AirPort Extreme base station to the Verizon supplied Actiontec router & use the Extreme as my wireless point but can’t figure out how to make it work. Do I connect the ethernet cable from the router to the WAN port on the Express rather than the computer? Do I turn off wireless in the router? Are there any other “setting” I need to be aware of? Any help will be appreciated.
Re my previous post. I had 15/5 not 15/2 installed. installation went quick & they did a nice physical job on the installation; even ran cables thru the attic which I was told I would have to do myself. Installers were Mac ignorant however & I had to set up Network Preferences for them. Then they couldn’t log into the Verizon set up site so I could establish a user ID & password. They left saying I should contact tech support as “there was some firewall in my computer blocking it”. This was BS because the firewall was turned off. Tech support had me go to a different site & set up then went without a hitch.
Joe,
Good luck with FiOS. You can use your Apple Airport for Wireless if you like with or without the Actiontec router. If you ran Ethernet to the Actiontec you could use your Airport in its place. Or you can connect the Airport to the Actiontec and use it as a wireless access point. Just turn off the wireless in the Actiontec and connect the WAN port of the Apple Airport to the Actiontec and configure the Airport to use only the wireless.
I had verizon DSL and my wireless Macs ran well. I upgraded to fios and my Macs acted like they were on a dial up connection. I had the tech out and he ran his check then stated his laptop worked fine where my macs were and couldn’t figure out what was up. I then had him switch my wireless to my linksys router and keep my cable on the fios router and everything is running fast and furious. Very happy now.
Anyone else have trouble with the HDTV DVR Fios set-top box and treadmills? The regular set top box was fine, but when we upgraded to the HDTV box, we can’t treadmill when watching live TV – the TV freezes. Also, without using the treadmill the TV pixelates intermittently. No real problems when watching “OnDemand” or recorded shows from the DVR. We’ve tried using a monster HDMI cable and surge protectors on both the HDTV/DVR and treadmill (which are on different outlets) and there’s no improvement. It takes several attempts to get through to Verizon FIOS service, and we’ve already changed the HDTV box once. Any ideas?
I had the exact same problem with my Firefox and the verizon.dmg as 3 other people on this site. THANK YOU for telling me how to fix it, since naturally Verizon was of no help whatsoever and told me that the problem was with my computer since their idiot techs didn’t know how to fix it.
Bethany,
Glad you found a solution. Thanks for reading ReelSmart.
Fios wireless SLOW on my Macbook. I switched from Comcast Cable to Verizon Fios and now have the combination cable moden/wireless router. The wireless connection to my Macbook seems painfully slow and the range is not nearly the same as my old Comcast when using my own router. I have an Airport router and wondered if I would be better off using that instead. Assuming I can connect it to my Verizon modem via WAN port? I assume I also need to reconfigure the verizon moden to use the Airport for wireless.
Dave,
I recently swapped out the Actiontec router supplied by Verizon for an older Apple Airport Extreme router. The was reason was I was tired of having to re-boot the Actiontec twice a day (this is my third one). I was quickly able to use the Apple router using FiOS User + password for the PPOE settings. Works perfectly.
Two different things to look out for. One is you will need to have a router that Verizon installed using cat 5, not RG6 for Internet connection to the ONT. Two – need to have NIM connected to get VOD and widgets working on TV (see post). If you can not do this (Verizon can) you may want to put the Actiontec router in bridge mode add the Apple router for wireless and DHCP. This is a little tricky but do-able.
Thanks for all the good info here–We just had FIOS installed and maybe one of you can tell me why my outgoing mail, through the Mac Mail app on my G5, is unreliable at best? I have 3 accounts: GoDaddy (my own url for work), .mac for iDisk, and gmail for spam control. The outgoing server settings aren’t working consistently for POP or IMAP accounts. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t… Help!
Leah,
Verizon FiOS is the same as most ISPs that they usually block port 25 (common outgoing mail) for all mail servers but their own. This is a spam protection for ISPs to limit access to rouge mail servers. You usually have to either configure the email to use their outgoing server for mail or use web mail. Some mail like gmail uses a different port and can be setup to be used with many ISPs that block port 25.
I recently changed from pc to iMac and from Cox to Fios. I am using the Fios router and built in airport for wireless connection. Sometimes the iMac runs at the advertised 10mbs and sometimes hardly at all. The latent period you talk about may be a problem. The blue progess bar at the top will move about 50% and then stop or slow way down. I installed broadband tuner without any change. Apple tech support had me reset Safari and that seemed to work for a few hours, but does not work now. My pc is running off the same router (not at the same time) rock solid all the time so the problem must be with the iMac. Speakeasy sometimes does not connect at all and other time shows 100k or less download. Any ideas?
@Jim,
The broadband tuner was helpful with older version of OS X, I doubt this is your problem. Try rebooting your FiOS router. I had nothing but problems with the Actiontec router they provided and even had them send me a replacement that was no better. I am now using an Apple router without any problems.
27 October
Palm Harbor, Fl
I have the first iMac 800Mz running 10.4.11. Fios internet is supposed
to reach 20K downloads but I get about 6K. I got a new modem…no help…I downloaded Broadband Tuner 1.0…no help.
Verizon tech came to the house Sunday.
He got 21K connecting his Panasonic Laptop running XP to my modem.
Its slow whether I use Camino, Firefox,
or Safari.
I have no idea what to do. I have used
Diskwarrior and applejack to get computer working right.
No Luck.
HELP!
Was there an answer to the question regarding Fios and treadmills? I have the same problem. Have HD DVR box and whenever we are on treadmill, picture freezes or pixalates. Did not have this issue with. This is a problem since whole point of treadmill in front of TV is entertainment while working out. Any suggestions? Thanks.
I have since switched back to Comcast for my internet and cable tv. Although there is no love-affair with them, I can say that my wireless speed has increased dramatically…. I mean a noticeable increase and no problems with outages and modem re-sets. I can use my own wireless router without issue. Plug and play. I found out that the Comcast service to my house uses fiber-optic cable as well. The only difference is that it ends at the pole, 30 feet from my house. I have eliminated a lot of ugly boxes both outside and inside my home. My tv picture is just as good. Now if they would only go 100% alacarte. I don’t watch, need or want 500 channels of useless crap. I am more than willing to pay for the channels I want.